UPL 101 for Advisors: Understanding the Line Between Information and Advice
Speakers
Karen Nachbar
Chief Legal Officer, Vanilla
Erica Ellis, JD
Associate General Counsel, Vanilla
Speakers
Karen Nachbar
Chief Legal Officer, Vanilla
Erica Ellis, JD
Associate General Counsel, Vanilla
Key takeaways
- Unauthorized practice of law (UPL) happens any time someone without a law license gives legal advice, drafts or interprets a legal document for a specific person, or holds themselves out as an attorney. Estate planning conversations put advisors in this territory constantly, often without them realizing it.
- Polling during the session showed how common this is: 79% of attendees said a client has asked them what documents they need, whether they can recommend an attorney, or whether existing documents address their needs, and 98% correctly identified that even small edits to a legal document, like adding one provision, cross the UPL line.
- The clearest UPL risk is drafting or editing any part of a legal document. As Ellis put it, once an advisor changes a provision in a document an attorney prepared, “that attorney is no longer on the hook for the implications of that document… the advisor now comes on the hook.”
- The safer role is to educate, share factual information, and offer options, not to give an opinion specific to one client’s situation or make selections inside their estate plan on their behalf, even within self-guided software.
- Vanilla’s own product reflects this: clients confirm every choice themselves in Vanilla Document Builder, and the Attorney Network is offered as one resource among several, never the only path to a completed plan.
What counts as unauthorized practice of law (0:00–10:00)
UPL is broader than most advisors expect, and it does not require calling yourself an attorney to trigger it. Nachbar described it plainly during the session: it is “anytime an individual who is not a lawyer engages in the practice of law,” and what counts as practicing law can shift by state and by the role someone plays in a client’s life.
In practice, that covers four main behaviors: giving legal advice (telling someone what to do about a legal matter), giving a legal opinion, drafting or editing any portion of a legal document, and representing a client the way an attorney would. Applying a general estate planning concept to one client’s specific circumstances is where advisors most often cross from education into advice without meaning to.
The risk shows up in ordinary moments, not just obvious ones. Asking a client whether they have estate documents, reviewing what they hand over, or recommending a planning tool that touches estate planning can all open the door, especially around a major life event like a marriage, a move, or a sudden increase in wealth.
Where advisors most often cross the line (10:00–22:00)
Nachbar and Ellis walked through several scenarios pulled directly from conversations they have with Vanilla customers, and a live poll confirmed advisors could spot the risky ones. The instinct is usually right; the hard part is catching it in the moment with an actual client in front of you.
Editing or drafting any part of a document
Adding language, editing a provision, or writing a draft for an attorney to review all count as drafting, even when the advisor never touches a will or trust from scratch. Ellis called this one of the clearest examples of UPL, second only to holding yourself out as an attorney directly.
Recommending a specific legal strategy
Telling a client they need an ILIT because their estate exceeds the exemption limit, and that they do not need legal advice on it, is a common example. The strategy itself may be reasonable, but presenting it as settled, rather than something to review with an attorney, is what turns it into UPL.
Making selections inside a client’s plan
Choosing a package or answering questionnaire selections on a client’s behalf, even with a decade of relationship history behind the judgment call, crosses the line the moment the advisor clicks the button that finalizes a choice. Ellis noted the retention risk compounds this: if a surviving spouse or future beneficiary is unhappy with a choice the advisor made, the advisor now owns that dissatisfaction directly.
Reviewing an existing plan carries its own risk (22:00–26:00)
Telling a client their existing documents are fine, even when that is the advisor’s honest read, is riskier than it looks. Ellis explained that a lawyer’s review carries a legal and ethical duty to catch every detail that could matter, down to provisions like powers of appointment that may not be obvious on a first read.
The safer version of this conversation is to help a client understand the general structure of what they have, then connect them with an attorney for anything that requires a legal interpretation of whether it still fits their situation.
Practical ways to stay on the right side of the line (26:00–34:00)
Nachbar’s guidance throughout was to think about UPL risk the way a security team thinks about protecting client data: no single safeguard does the job alone, so layering several matters more than perfecting any one of them.
Education, factual information, and offering a range of options, rather than a single recommendation, form the core of that layered approach. Vanilla has published its own take on where these lines tend to fall in a blog post on the risks of UPL, which is worth a look alongside internal policy and training.
Disclaimers can help, but only alongside practices that actually back them up. A disclaimer stating an advisor does not give legal advice does not undo the fact of having given it.
How product design can build in guardrails (32:00–48:00)
Ellis walked through how Vanilla Document Builder was designed with UPL in mind from the start. Clients must accept an acknowledgment that neither Vanilla nor their advisor can give legal advice before they can proceed, and every choice in the questionnaire, including the final decision to submit, stays with the client. Advisors can see progress but cannot navigate the flow or answer on a client’s behalf.
The product also pushes higher-risk cases toward legal help rather than trying to serve them, declining to support international addresses, special needs beneficiaries, or joint trusts in separate-property states, for example. Advanced strategies with real estate tax exposure follow a similar pattern: the product is built to route those cases toward an attorney rather than let an advisor navigate them alone inside the questionnaire.
When a case needs more than the self-guided flow can offer, the Vanilla Attorney Network is built to be one option among several an advisor can offer, not a referral that creates liability for Vanilla or the advisor. Engagements can be as narrow as a single question or as broad as a full plan for a complex estate.
Q&A highlights
Q: What should an advisor say if a client would rather get legal advice directly from them than talk to an attorney?
A: Be direct that you cannot provide legal advice, and that telling them what to do about their estate plan would constitute it. From there, offer resources instead, such as balance sheet details, plan structure information, or tools like Document Builder, that support the client without making the legal call for them.
Q: Is it okay for an advisor to show a client some articles comparing options, like a revocable versus irrevocable trust, if the client makes the final decision?
A: Yes, based on the scenario discussed. Presenting pros and cons and letting the client choose is a reasonable way to support a decision without making it, since the client retained the final call.
Q: Does using an AI tool to analyze a client’s estate plan create UPL risk?
A: It can, so apply the same UPL lens to AI output that you would to your own judgment. AI tools can be genuinely useful for issue-spotting, such as flagging a power of appointment worth a closer look, but treat what they surface as a prompt to loop in an attorney, not as a legal conclusion to relay directly to the client.
About the speakers
Karen Nachbar — Chief Legal Officer, Vanilla
Karen Nachbar is Chief Legal Officer at Vanilla, leading the company’s legal, compliance, and risk strategy. She joined Vanilla in 2022 after in-house legal leadership roles at Sotheby’s and BARK.
Erica Ellis, JD — Associate General Counsel, Vanilla
Erica Ellis, JD is Associate General Counsel at Vanilla, where she partners closely with product, engineering, and leading tax and estate planning professionals to shape innovative solutions for modern estate planning.
The information provided here does not constitute legal, financial, or tax advice. It is provided for general informational purposes only. This information may not be updated or reflect changes in law. Please consult with an estate attorney, financial advisor, or tax professional who can advise as to your particular situation.
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