Unauthorized Practice of Law (UPL) Training (1 hour CFP® CE)
Speakers
Karen Nachbar
Chief Legal Officer, Vanilla
Peter D. Kennedy
Shareholder, Graves Dougherty Hearon & Moody
Speakers
Karen Nachbar
Chief Legal Officer, Vanilla
Peter D. Kennedy
Shareholder, Graves Dougherty Hearon & Moody
Key takeaways
- UPL is a patchwork of state-based rules without one settled definition, but the throughline test is whether specific, individualized legal advice or judgment is being applied to someone’s situation, whether spoken aloud or built into a bespoke document drafted for them.
- Self-service legal document software has been legally settled for decades: providing access to a tool and helping someone navigate it is not UPL, but making the client’s choices for them is.
- Advisors can describe what an existing estate plan does and its consequences, including tax consequences, without that being UPL. The line gets crossed when an advisor recommends a specific legal vehicle or starts drafting or editing the documents themselves.
- Even fully licensed in-house counsel face restrictions: legal practices generally must be lawyer-owned, so in-house lawyers at a financial firm can advise their employer but not the firm’s outside clients directly.
- AI carries the same UPL exposure as any other channel. Using it to educate yourself is fine, but handing a client an AI-generated answer or document is treated the same as giving that advice yourself, with the added risk that AI output can look polished while still being wrong.
What actually counts as unauthorized practice of law (0:00–10:00)
UPL has never had a single clean definition. Kennedy, who has litigated UPL cases for over 25 years, described it as a monopoly that state bar associations, legislators, and courts jointly enforce over the right to give legal advice, with the exact boundary shifting from state to state.
The clearest test, in his framing, is whether someone is giving an individual specific advice tied to their situation, applying legal judgment to help them reach a particular legal outcome, or drafting a document that will have legal effect for them. Teaching about the law generally, or publishing general commentary that is not aimed at one person’s circumstances, sits safely outside that zone.
Kennedy pointed out that this isn’t only a licensing formality: courts, bar associations, legislators, and court-appointed committees all have some authority to enforce it, and in rare cases UPL can even carry criminal exposure, though that is reserved for people flatly impersonating a lawyer rather than professionals working near the edges of their own field.
Where self-service software fits (10:00–24:00)
A large share of the conversation focused on document-generation software, since Kennedy spent much of his career representing companies through the regulatory fights that established this space. His summary: the law has landed on a clear distinction between offering the tool and steering the outcome.
Providing access and helping someone navigate it isn’t UPL
Software that asks a client questions and fills their answers into a template is functionally the same as the paper forms and instruction kits that were tested in court decades earlier, just faster and more consistent. Helping a client use the interface, explaining a term they don’t understand, or pointing them to more information all fall on the safe side of the line.
Making the client’s choices is where it turns into UPL
The moment someone other than the client starts deciding which option to select, that shifts from access into practicing law. This is exactly why Vanilla Document Builder is built so the advisor cannot make selections on a client’s behalf. Even a well-intentioned recommendation carries this risk, and Kennedy noted that in the case law, a client should be allowed to make their own error rather than have someone else quietly correct their course.
What advisors can safely say about an existing estate plan (26:00–32:00)
Describing how a client’s current plan works, including its tax consequences, is different from recommending a change to it, and that distinction is what keeps a conversation on the safe side of UPL. As Vanilla has written about separately in a blog post on the risks of UPL, education and description are the tools available to advisors; a specific legal recommendation, or drafting the document that carries it out, is not.
Kennedy drew the line at the point where description turns into direction: explaining that a trust currently does X, or that a transfer would trigger Y in taxes, is safe. Telling a client which legal vehicle to use instead, or drafting the replacement document, crosses into work a lawyer needs to do.
Bringing in a lawyer lowers the risk of UPL (36:00–48:00)
Both Kennedy and Nachbar returned repeatedly to the same point: encouraging a client toward independent legal review is one of the most effective ways to reduce UPL exposure, not a sign of failure. Vanilla’s own answer to this is the Attorney Network built so a lawyer can review a plan without creating liability for the advisor who made the introduction.
Kennedy’s practical advice: keep a visible, documented process where the client’s ability to reach independent legal advice is never blocked, and be comfortable naming legal representation directly rather than hedging. He also cautioned against reviewing a plan an outside attorney drafted and voicing a strong opinion on its quality, raising a specific question is fine, but rendering a verdict on someone else’s legal work edges back toward the line.
How AI impacts the risk of UPL (48:00–52:00)
Kennedy was direct that AI does not create a new category of risk so much as it amplifies the existing one: using AI to answer a client’s legal question is UPL if giving that same answer yourself would have been, regardless of who or what generated the words. His bigger concern was confidence without accuracy, AI output reads as polished and authoritative even when it’s wrong, which makes it more persuasive and more dangerous than an obviously rough first draft.
He was candid that the legal profession is dealing with the same problem: lawyers have already faced consequences for filing AI-generated briefs containing fabricated case citations. His practical guidance for advisors was to treat any AI output as a starting point to verify, not a final answer to relay, and to avoid pointing clients toward AI tools for anything resembling legal guidance.
Using AI to educate yourself is a reasonable use of the tool, distinct from using it to generate something a client will rely on.
Q&A highlights
Do professional certifications protect an advisor from a UPL claim?
Not as a legal safe harbor, since a certification isn’t a law license. In practice, though, Kennedy noted risk is low if the advisor stays within their certified area of expertise and never claims, or implies, that they’re replacing a lawyer.
Is it UPL to help a client execute or notarize their estate planning documents?
Helping with the mechanics of signing and notarizing isn’t practicing law, but execution and notarization rules vary by state, so confirm who’s permitted to sign or notarize what in your jurisdiction before assuming a process is compliant.
About the speakers
Karen Nachbar — Chief Legal Officer, Vanilla
Karen Nachbar is Chief Legal Officer at Vanilla, leading the company’s legal, compliance, and risk strategy. She joined Vanilla in 2022 after in-house legal leadership roles at Sotheby’s and BARK.
Peter D. Kennedy — Shareholder, Graves Dougherty Hearon & Moody
Peter D. Kennedy is a Shareholder at Graves Dougherty Hearon & Moody in Austin, Texas, practicing in appellate law, technology, and First Amendment matters. He has represented legal-technology companies, including LegalZoom, on unauthorized practice of law issues for over two decades.
The information provided here does not constitute legal, financial, or tax advice. It is provided for general informational purposes only. This information may not be updated or reflect changes in law. Please consult with an estate attorney, financial advisor, or tax professional who can advise as to your particular situation.
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